What is a national average for a person with pre press and screen printing skills.
Are you psychic or what??? I was just mulling over the fact that here I made 7 per hour doing all aspects involved in manual printing from pre-press, print production and post press until after 8 months got a 50 cent an hour raise...then was forced out by guys with less education (unrelated but still a degree with art background and extra education in print media). I chalked it up to what one told me "it's a man's world" although this same person who had 14 years of experience said I could print circles around the guys. I love the manual process with all it's clumsy flaws, given the shops in our area are working with very old machines. What I wouldn't give for a living wage in my backyard or where ever in order to continue in this field! What is a realistic wage to ask for?
Patti, I myself as an employer world rather have a woman doing my printing, In my opinion they are more piticular(dont know if i spelled that one correct) and pay more attention to detail. I was paying a lady $13.00hr plus cell phone plus weeks paid vacation plus 5 paid holidays. She got three raises in two years and up and quit on me. Am I not paying enough?? I really dont know at this point. I know it is all relative to the were your located as far as pay scale.
In my opinion as a manager (for what that's worth) I'd pay top dollar for workers who don't ask how high when I say jump, they just jump as high as they can for as long as needed, and who CARE about doing the job right (and asking what that is if they don't know). I was told a long time ago by a manager of mine that it didn't matter what someone knows how to do if he won't do it. People want to argue with you constantly. I don't mean bringing up a question about how something's going to be done if your confused or think there's been a mistake. I need "yes I can" people not "no YOU can't". I have a printer who's responsible for my 5 color 60x120 Thieme and it's 3-5 man team, and frankly he's probably the "best" screen printer I've ever known (and I've know dozens in my 30 years). He catches mistakes with materials, art, screens and ink that is in the "instinctual" range. I think that he's making around 45m to 50m a year (and if he even hinted at being dissatisfied, I'd give him whatever he wanted). Your knowledge could get you $10 to $15 an hour in my art, screen, and printing dept's, but it's your "work ethic" that would truly make you money at this shop. I would have no problem paying the guy standing right next to you twice what I'm paying you, if his attitude about working was better than your's.
By the way we're in the huge Southern California market and some of the people working in this business have had the opportunity of dozens of places to work, so the good ones are known and fought over.
You have to look at this industry (and probably all others) as being a sport franchise. Someone may have been a so-so player on this team but became a heavy hitter when traded to another team because the way it does things just fits his/her personality.
In America's free market system, you as a worker have an obligation NOT to work for people who treat you badly (pay, working conditions.......) You have an obligation to your family and dependants to get the BEST pay and working conditions that you can. Easier said than done but capitalism and democracy are HARD and have to be worked at constantly.
Once again, I can train people to do a job, I need people who want...... no, HAVE to do it right 'cause they don't know how to do it any other way. Those are the people who can write their own ticket, and if that's YOU and your employer doesn't recognize it the American ideal DEMAND's that you find someone who does, consequently driving the employer who is not "up to snuff" out of business (where he belongs and will eventually end up)
Goodness, Chris, here in the deep South the companies just don't want to get with the real world, but I love the weather (often in this time of year I wish for the Fla Keys) but family being here keeps me here. That's one of those Southern Female traits that can be troubling. I am a perfectionist who likes to work hard all day every day, hot or cold, as long as the dryer is full & I'm spinning the press I'm like a bed bug in the perfect bed. I don't tolerate bs, Howard Stern on the shop radio, and change for the sake of change, but do it when it's necessary for production, and I talk when yelled at...Ha! My young boss didn't like that so I left...the money was just a fact of life in this town/state....but the work ethic is more important to me.
If you think $13.00 dollars an hour is a good (excellent) wage. Then you need to remove your head from your ass. Start talking $17, 18 to $25 and hour. Then feel free to bitch.
What you were paying was poverty level, not to mention your obvious bias towards females.
It boils down to what the market can bear on "pay scales"...don't expect to make $25 bucks an hour down south. I've got 25 years experience from art, prepress, production, management and sales but I couldn't expect a great wage from a company with 5 employees and a manual. Then again I've worked with multimillion dollar companies and got barrel bottom wages, again market and individuals make the "scale" Good luck, I love this industry and will continue no matter the scale...but then again most screenprinters aren't in the right mental state of mind.
17, 18, or even 25 dollars an hour is what the rate should be. I do everything from pre press to production, artwork, folding, reclaiming, coating screen, exposing screens, buying and stocking supplies, and i am only getting 12.50 an hour right now. I have been promised double that soon but i should be at least making 17 right now with the amount of work that i do
ok. I hear all of your comments. As a manager I want to keep you happy. However, I have to live by the bottom-line.
For me the question is what the market bears but what I'd really like to know is what the industry itself judges as a competitive salary for a screenprinter.
As with all other jobs, there should be an established range scale for screenprinters.
Can anyone point me in the direction to find this valuable gem?
For someone that is just running the press i would have to say 12-15 dollars and hour is good. In my position I do everything from artwork to screen reclaiming.
here is my list if duties:
maintain all screenprinting machines
run an inline numbering machine
proficient in Adobe photoshop, illustrator cs, adobe stream line, corel draw 11, i do all the artwork, coating and exposing of screens, reclaiming old screens mixing custom ink colors and ordering of supplies.
i would like to know what you would offer me to do all of that if you were offering me a job. i would be happy with 20-22 bucks an hour to start. what would you offer?
if you want paul email me at JMLaltima@comcast.net
I work for one of the leading screen printers in the Ohio,Indiana,and Kentucky region.We employ about 50 people.We print indoor promotion signage and some outdoor.We have our own die-cutting facility as well. I have worked at soom point in all phases of screen printing since 1976. My job has been screen press operator on such as "Thieme" and Italian "Progress" Cylinder presses for the highest speed production. I have done the flatbed and the Cameo(clamshell)thing too.I work in the prepress department now as a film assembler for the different screen presses we have. Film screen angles,line counts and overall quality control of the now plotted film(instead of camera film)has made a difference in the minds of the production manager.I think its give and take.The mistakes I catch come from the "Mac" operators themselves and sometimes from from glitches from the film plotter itself.The shop is so high volume that the Mac operators have no time to inspect what they output.Hence my job is very busy from Quality control of film to co-ordinating information on job specs before printing. What would you place my value,on a scale of 1 thru 4 in your company as for my experience and present job desciption? (#4 being your top pay and #1 being the lowest.)Thanks........... Tommy
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